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  Pastor Having Sex With A Woman While Praying For Her To Get Pregnant.

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  Do you miss feeling that "Jehovah" was listening to prayers?

  by LyinEyes in

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  this is hard to explain, but i will try.

  the other day, my neice was put in the hospital for test , after having two seizures, she is 20 and has never had any medical problems at all.

  i now know, that by doing that it seemed to take the burden of helplessness off of my shoulders.

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  Ohio Pastor Puts Bed and Stripper Pole Next to Pulpit to Talk Sex

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  ohio pastor puts bed and stripper pole next to pulpit to talk sex.

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  read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/ohio-pastor-puts-stripper-pole-next-to-pulpit-to-talk-sex-72432/#3zmcs2clz9rdpwtt.99 .

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  Ohio Pastor Puts Bed and Stripper Pole Next to Pulpit to Talk Sex

  Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/ohio-pastor-puts-stripper-pole-next-to-pulpit-to-talk-sex-72432/#3zMCs2clZ9RdPwTt.99
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  How do you make a living?

  by paulnotsaul in

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  since most of us believed it was right around the corner, how many of you went to any secondary schools or training?

  what do you do now to survive?

  are you working or unemployed?

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  Do you miss God?

  by wobble in

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  if you are one of the posters on here who has got to the point where you do not believe in god to any great extent, do you miss "him".

  i find that i rarely used to ask god for anything, or load him up with my problems, everybody elses were far more urgent, but i did used to feel moved to praise him when i saw the beauties of creation, a sunset etc.. i now feel an urge to still do that, but do not believe anyone is listening, do you get moments like that ?.

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  For me, realizing that I had been duped by a cult leaves me skeptical of religion in general. It does make me feel empty sometimes, but I am getting used to it. But I still hope there is a benevolent God who has something better for us.
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  The Results of an Atheist Sex Survey

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  what happens when 10,000 non-religious people take a survey about their sex lives including people who were raised in one religion but later left it?

  well, you get a treasure trove of data thats never been analyzed before.. .

  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/05/15/the-results-of-an-atheist-sex-survey/.

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  What happens when 10,000 non-religious people take a survey about their sex lives — including people who were raised in one religion but later left it? Well, you get a treasure trove of data that’s never been analyzed before.

  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/05/15/the-results-of-an-atheist-sex-survey/
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  The best unintentionally sexual church signs

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  http://www.happyplace.com/3695/unintentionally-sexual-church-signs.

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  Sex as God, gross and gift

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  worship is giving our money, body, and life to a person or thing as our highest commitment or functional god.

  practically, this means that sex is a worship act and beds are really altars.. religious belief systems have always held widely divergent views regarding sexuality.

  the three most prominent views are sex as god, gross, or gift.

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  Worship is giving our money, body, and life to a person or thing as our highest commitment or functional god. Practically, this means that sex is a worship act and beds are really altars.

  Religious belief systems have always held widely divergent views regarding sexuality. The three most prominent views are sex as god, gross, or gift.

  The view that sex is god has a long history. From the days of the Old Testament, various nations had fertility cults and various religions had temples that included male and female prostitutes, such as the Temple of Aphrodite. Canaanite gods were depicted naked and were honored with erotic poetry. Asherah poles were male phallic symbols used as gathering places for orgies. Some religions even had manuals for sexuality, such as the Kama Sutra.

  Those who see sex as a functional god use it for identity, pleasure, reward, and comfort. Furthermore, those who hold sex as a god tend to evangelize others, encouraging them to join in and worship their god by participating in whatever their sexual preferences and practices are. This explains why in America today there is nothing short of a religious zeal for sex of all kinds. We now spend more money every year on pornography than all professional football, baseball, and basketball franchises combined; more than the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, and NBC; and roughly the same amount as we give to foreign aid. The number one consumer of porn is twelve- to seventeen-year-old boys, who now expect their girlfriends to send them naked photos that they can keep on their phones and forward to their buddies.

  In an overreaction to those who treat sex as god are those more prudishly religious people who instead see sex as gross. In the days of the early Greeks (who saw the body as an undesirable shell for the soul to be shed at death), many Stoic philosophers taught that sex was only for procreation and that celibacy was a desirable lifestyle. Sadly, many of the early church fathers in Christianity were influenced heavily by this erroneous thinking. Tertullian and Ambrose preferred the extinction of humanity to sex. Origen not only allegorized the biblical love story of the Song of Songs, but also castrated himself. Chrysostom taught that Adam and Eve did not have sex before the fall. Jerome was known to throw himself into sticker bushes when sexually tempted. Gregory of Nyssa said Adam and Eve were without sexual desire until sin entered the world, and that she became pregnant by eating a special plant from the Garden of Eden.

  Some years later, the Catholic Church forbade priests to marry, regulated sexual frequency, positions, and sensations for married couples, and went so far as to ban marital intercourse for a total of roughly half of the year. Today, this kind of thinking is promulgated perhaps most emphatically in exceedingly conservative, fundamentalist churches and their youth ministries, where they teach students that sex is dirty, nasty, vile, wrong, and to be saved for the one you love, which is an inherently confusing message.

  According to the Bible, sex was God's idea. The Bible starts by revealing that God made us male and female with bodies built for sexual pleasure. God also created the covenant of marriage as the hearth in which the passionate flame of sexual desire is to be contained and enjoyed.

  The Bible says that sex serves many purposes, such as:

  1. Pleasure (Song of Songs is an entire book on this fact)
  2. Children (Genesis 1:28)
  3. Oneness (Genesis 2:24)
  4. Knowledge (Genesis 4:1)
  5. Comfort (2 Samuel 12:24)
  6. Protection from sexual sin (1 Corinthians 7:2-5)

  Furthermore, the biblical book Song of Songs gives great liberty for sexual freedom in marriage, including:

  1. Kissing (1:2)
  2. Oral sex (fellatio), by her initiative (2:3)
  3. Manual stimulation, by her invitation (2:6)
  4. Petting, by his initiative (4:5)
  5. Oral sex (cunnilingus), by his initiative (4:12-5:1)
  6. Striptease (6:13-7:9)
  7. New places, including the outdoors, and positions, by her initiative (7:11-13)

  Therefore, biblical Christianity promotes free and frequent sex solely in the context of marriage. In an age of sexual abuse, sexual addiction, sexual prostitution and slavery, sexually transmitted diseases, and unwanted pregnancies, the timeless wisdom of Scripture provides timely counsel for a culture that worships sex with all the passion of a fundamentalist religion.
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  JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

  by FaceTheFacts in

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  having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

  so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

  be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

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  cedars - You are so fond of condemning others. What is the problem with you?, Please Mr Man, Live and let others live.
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  Catholicism: Having Sex with Your Wife Can Be Adulterous

  by Most Noble in

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  pope john paul ii urged husbands "not to commit adultery with their wives by desiring sex for its mere pleasure and the satisfaction of instinct" (modras: 124, of 1980).. .

  we weren't exactly expecting a sex positive response, but isn't it a tad over the top, and well, you know, wrong to say that sex with your wife could even possibly be adulterous?

  the argument is that having sex for pleasure, rather than procreation, is against church doctrine, but how on earth is that adulterous?

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  Pope John Paul II urged husbands "not to commit adultery with their wives by desiring sex for its mere pleasure and the satisfaction of instinct" (Modras: 124, of 1980).
  
  We weren't exactly expecting a sex positive response, but isn't it a tad over the top, and well, you know, WRONG to say that sex with your wife could even possibly be adulterous? The argument is that having sex for pleasure, rather than procreation, is against Church doctrine, but how on earth is that adulterous? Here's the definition of adultery, according to the Oxford dictionary, just so we're clear: (noun) voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.
  
  Interesting how this has nothing to do with sleeping with your wife. Just goes to show how solid everyone's reading of The Bible is (including those who define the words derived from it that we use every day.) Read more at http://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-weirdest-religious-sex-beliefs/rachel-stewart?page=2#5h0HeacpRvL3lotD.99